Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

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Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby Zamperl » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:07 pm

Hi,
I'm trying to tune up a car with stage1. I found a tuning file for the same car, model, ECU and HW but not the SW (it's higher).

Original: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD Bosch EDC15C6-7 HW0281010488 SW1037366560
Stage1: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD Bosch EDC15 HW0281010488 SW 376535

Could somebody please help me to know if I can use this stage1 soft for writing into the ECU?

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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby jtdpow » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:03 pm

No,you can't,or at least you shouldn't do it

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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby Zamperl » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:39 pm

Thanks for your response. I'm still learning about ECU tuning, optimizing, etc. I'm a software engineer but have no skill of cars.
If I improve something I increase the version. like x.x.x.x
Could you please inform me why I shouldn't use the newer software on the same hardware ECU?

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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby jtdpow » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:58 am

Because they dont gave the same checksums and the maps cant be in the same address,and this can block your ecu,sorry for my english

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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby Zamperl » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:11 pm

Thanks for your reply, your English is good enough my English isn't better :-)

How can I verify the checksum of the original ECU file related to the stage1 file?

Original read ECU file
FiatDucato2300Jtd_F1AE0481C_81kW110HP_Diesel_2002MY_BoschEDC15C6-7_Euro3.zip


Stage1 file
Fiat_Ducato_2.3_JTD_2004_Turbodiesel___80.9KWKW_Bosch_0281010488_Bosch__376535_65DC.zip


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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby boRaTDI » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:07 pm

mate he told you that you cant do it.
if only one map is not at the same adress like in your ori file you will have trouble !
but i am sure that there are more maps which are not at same adress.
result is for example:
car doesnt start.
ecu blocks
car shut down while driving
and so on...


and you even dont know whats in the stage 1 file, maybe its a bad tune, and you want to use it ?

in your place i would look for somebody who can do a good remap and pay it, thats the most safe way for you and the cars engine :)

i hope i helped

regards

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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby Deman » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:45 pm

Someone else's firmware can be used, and it does not matter how the maps match. Algorithm for their placement in the firmware and stored. And the car is sure 90% of what will go. But the work of all functions is not guaranteed.

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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby Zamperl » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:58 pm

Thanks for response and both are right. I'm willing to pay for a professional tuning and contacted one already. I thought I can try a little bit by myself.
Checksum can be repaired by WinOls and I thought a higher software version would be an improvement from the basic.
How can I learn it with another car without destroying something or block the ECU?

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Re: Fiat Ducato 2.3 JTD HW0281010488 SW can be newer?

Postby Deman » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:57 am

The simplest MPPS can lift this ECU out of brick. But I'm sure 99% with the correct CS brick will not. And the correct operation of the engine and other systems at your discretion, all the way back.

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