Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby ecuedit » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:52 pm

sure it works ;)

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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby lostsoul » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:11 pm

testing on my renault 1.9dci and looks promising... :D
Still not find the smoke limiter by map...

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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby Harrycz44 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:35 pm

Hi all
I want try MAF off in my car it is Citroen 2,2 HDi, have someone damos for it pleas? Or map addresse for switch MAF/MAP?
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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby stanleybg » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:56 pm

Please help me find MAP based smoke limiter ? How it looks like ?

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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby Nemo_K30 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:35 pm

ecuedit wrote:Because when you put 18 you get MAP limiter actualy used as primary injection limiter and MAF limiter completely ignorred. If you check for sample Cargo EDC15C2 or EDC17C7 ecu that has no MAF sensor for sample Citroen Jumper or Peugeot Boxer, they are MAP based cars, you will see that there is actually number 18 as well.

Good afternoon, can anyone have a firmware from these machines (Boxer / Jumper), based on MAP.
For studying :)
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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby Slava111 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:58 pm

wld wrote:Oh, now I see !
Software from 2.0 8v 110HP engines has a nice, fat 16X16 MAP smoke limiter, which has been replaced with the 2x2 one on 2.2hdi engines. You cannot get a good smoke map with just 4 values, so I guess this mod should not be done on street cars.
The MAF is big on those engines anyway so it should be good for over 200HP.


Please, tell me the start adress of the MAP smoke limiter. I have spend a lot of time trying to find this map without any result. My car is Peugeot 307 2.0HDI 107HP, my firmware is in the attachment.
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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby Slava111 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:54 pm

I gues i vave found the start adress: 687E6. Thanks to all

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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby user202 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:29 pm

ecuedit wrote:
Maybe hard to believe but 2 x 2 is enough. Because if you take for Example Mercedes Benz diesel cars are mostly MAP based. And if you open for example 5 different bins from 5 different cars/engines, you will see that MAP smoke limiter as it is is pretty linear.
You can decide how your axis for rpm will start and end and by that you can decide y=kx+n what will be your k and how steep that line will be until it stops at the higher rev axis value, and at the higher rpm value you stop where you wish your AFR will be good enough not to smoke, but you calculate that based on volumetric efficiency of engine and other factors.
I hope i explained well. By that strategy you can have nice MAP based car on the road with pretty good efficiency.
Mine 2.2 HDI took average 6.5L-7.4/100km combined normal ride.

So you put range of rev :revX revY where revX < revY close enough but that revY stops from point where you wish full power...

Sample picture attached.


Please help how can I find the correct axis of it?
Is this map originally 80mm3 as I see.
So if I want a correct working I need to adjust as you make it?
But I didn't know wheather the x and y axis are in front of the 2x2 map as I marked in the pic?

Thank you very much
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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby genadko » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:22 am

lostsoul wrote:testing on my renault 1.9dci and looks promising... :D
Still not find the smoke limiter by map...

In Renault firmware SL by MAP is next to Warmup enrich map but 3x3 not 2x2 like in Peugeot firmware. ;)

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Re: Peugeot 406 2.2HDi EDC15C2 MAFFLESS TUNE

Postby genadko » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:07 pm

user202 wrote:
ecuedit wrote:
Maybe hard to believe but 2 x 2 is enough. Because if you take for Example Mercedes Benz diesel cars are mostly MAP based. And if you open for example 5 different bins from 5 different cars/engines, you will see that MAP smoke limiter as it is is pretty linear.
You can decide how your axis for rpm will start and end and by that you can decide y=kx+n what will be your k and how steep that line will be until it stops at the higher rev axis value, and at the higher rpm value you stop where you wish your AFR will be good enough not to smoke, but you calculate that based on volumetric efficiency of engine and other factors.
I hope i explained well. By that strategy you can have nice MAP based car on the road with pretty good efficiency.
Mine 2.2 HDI took average 6.5L-7.4/100km combined normal ride.

So you put range of rev :revX revY where revX < revY close enough but that revY stops from point where you wish full power...

Sample picture attached.


Please help how can I find the correct axis of it?
Is this map originally 80mm3 as I see.
So if I want a correct working I need to adjust as you make it?
But I didn't know wheather the x and y axis are in front of the 2x2 map as I marked in the pic?

Thank you very much


Number 200 in grey color is beginning of X-axe and 700 is beginning of Y-axe.

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