Hello ...!

I am reasonably new to this, and need a little help.
Have seen a lot of videos on youtube on how to find the different maps etc.
But where can I learn about the different maps, thinking "Drivers Wish", "EGR map", "Duration maps", "Boost map" etc etc.

And what happens when i change in them, and what the different maps do .. ?

I need a newbie guide in maps?

Thanks in advance. :)

- HenrikLDK

Hi

There isn't any full tutorial. You must learn from diffrent articles, forums etc.
Maybe read book like 'diesel engines' or 'petron engines' to learn some mechanics, physics, thermodynamics...


maybe some of this will help

https://sites.google.com/site/vagecumap ... ne-control

Thank you very much

You can learn a little bit about Mapping if you take a original and a professional mapped file into winols. Now you can see what was changed.

Same noob in this world, just maybe litle advansed will try to sugest...

I would sugest after reading some articles like above in the link, withc flow over on the web (google it) then take some untuched engine map origiinal .ORI format (seach this forum or other) choose from popular car, open and try to find some first basic map or recognise them, as winols will find them auto, from that you already red and know, then just search by adreses or names (so called) specific maps for that car/ecu.
!!! AHTUNG, programs like winols do finds maps, but not all, and even selects that aren't maps at all.
They don't give you info that is that map for too.

Forget for now tuning and harware (reading/writing), fist find and recognise(understand) all maps wish is needed for good tuning and make yourself so called MapPack, marking and giving name, helps understanding relasions and fiding specific falueas faster.

Recomend to start with WW group cars, choose by engine the most popular, not most powerful or rare (more info in forums) and start with edc15xx ECUs, they are more easy to understand inside ecu, everything is based on injection in mg. EDC16xxx is based on Nm +IQ is mm^3 so its just hard to recognise/understand that is there. For WW ecus its biger chance to get so called DAMOS, just please don't count on that, beter do some seaching studing and understanding.
Don't count on programs for auto functio, like EGR off or immo or that ever, chances that will bric ECU is just so big, beter do tyou self.

Made this mistake, started with edc16c8/c39 (i'm intrested only about AlfaRomeo JTD..) Very rare ECU, and more rare cars, not much info about 16c8 so its realy hard to understand relasions between, but i'm already finishing mappack (part for +HP)

I suggest you read a few books, articles and how-to's. One cant tell you the difference between maps, you have to try to understand it for yourself. Been there done that.

You need to know how a diesel engine works. Try to picture this in a schematic way, so you will know about all the processes that go on in the car.

For instance;
When a driver presses the gas pedal a Driver's Wish is made ... When a driver's wish is made, car has a potentiometer in the pedal which is pressed XX%, ... Map linearisation is made to tell the car what quantity of diesel you wish to inject when the pedal is pressed XX%. So car checks later on how much boost it needs, what AFR should be used, when diesel should start injecting, ... and after all car checks with limiters when enough is enough :)

Learn the basic processes of 4 stroke engine and when you read it over and over and over again things will become logical in your head.

No one expert want to share information because it is big business !

FinMaNu wrote:No one expert want to share information because it is big business !

You can find alot of help on the forums all over the internet regarding this subject. And yes, it was a big business until there was one or two chiptuning companies in each country offering personal work to paying customers. Nowdays, there is good companies offering maps for 500-600€ personally made and dyno tested vs. map buying tuners for 200€.

When all said and done dont forget about the sleepless nights for knowledge, 7k€ flashers and 10k€ software needed to perform anything.. So not that big of a business after all :)

bastunas wrote:Same noob in this world, just maybe litle advansed will try to sugest...

I would sugest after reading some articles like above in the link, withc flow over on the web (google it) then take some untuched engine map origiinal .ORI format (seach this forum or other) choose from popular car, open and try to find some first basic map or recognise them, as winols will find them auto, from that you already red and know, then just search by adreses or names (so called) specific maps for that car/ecu.
!!! AHTUNG, programs like winols do finds maps, but not all, and even selects that aren't maps at all.
They don't give you info that is that map for too.

Forget for now tuning and harware (reading/writing), fist find and recognise(understand) all maps wish is needed for good tuning and make yourself so called MapPack, marking and giving name, helps understanding relasions and fiding specific falueas faster.

Recomend to start with WW group cars, choose by engine the most popular, not most powerful or rare (more info in forums) and start with edc15xx ECUs, they are more easy to understand inside ecu, everything is based on injection in mg. EDC16xxx is based on Nm +IQ is mm^3 so its just hard to recognise/understand that is there. For WW ecus its biger chance to get so called DAMOS, just please don't count on that, beter do some seaching studing and understanding.
Don't count on programs for auto functio, like EGR off or immo or that ever, chances that will bric ECU is just so big, beter do tyou self.

Made this mistake, started with edc16c8/c39 (i'm intrested only about AlfaRomeo JTD..) Very rare ECU, and more rare cars, not much info about 16c8 so its realy hard to understand relasions between, but i'm already finishing mappack (part for +HP)

(i'm intrested only about AlfaRomeo JTD..) Can you help me with my alfa romeo 147 jtd 103kw/140HP

I am a complete novice, but I'd like to edit it.

Does maps, per example, for tdi look the same as for multijet? I am talking about WinOLS 2d mode...