Hey guys, does have somebody experience with this "trick" ? I want to change my injectors nozzles from 320d 136 hp version with nozzles from CR injectors 150 hp. They look the same but i didnt try yet to fit one..will work ?

thats impossible ,150ps have CR injectors and 136ps have old type injectors without power supply conector. How are you going to activate CR injectors without ECU?

I replace only the NOZZLES, the interior of CR injector is activated electronically, and my non-cr is activated by pressure..by nozzles in the final is the same..indifferent how the fuel goes to nozzle, the nozzle is there

juice wrote:I replace only the NOZZLES, the interior of CR injector is activated electronically, and my non-cr is activated by pressure..by nozzles in the final is the same..indifferent how the fuel goes to nozzle, the nozzle is there

if you give some spec (bosch num, oem num, model, whatever) of the nozzle, maybe i can tell you the difference between them...........

On nozzles 320d 136 i see "DLLA 145 P 748" and the other side i see number 18319. I dont know yet about other nozzle.

juice wrote:On nozzles 320d 136 i see "DLLA 145 P 748" and the other side i see number 18319. I dont know yet about other nozzle.

the 320d 136cv uses 6 holes x 0.22mm at 145º spray angle nozzles and the 320d 150cv uses 6 holes x 0.16mm at 160º............

so, no, obviously they are not the same (different size whit different spray angle)..............

javizzz wrote:

juice wrote:On nozzles 320d 136 i see "DLLA 145 P 748" and the other side i see number 18319. I dont know yet about other nozzle.

the 320d 136cv uses 6 holes x 0.22mm at 145º spray angle nozzles and the 320d 150cv uses 6 holes x 0.16mm at 160º............

so, no, obviously they are not the same (different size whit different spray angle)..............

Great info man, thanks a lot..well i think i` will search a pair of bosio or firad with the same specs but bigger holes, ..because from the pump i cant squeeze more than 65 mg..even if i put request to 80 mg and it shows to me on tester full load 80 mg..the real pump iq from some dyno tests seems to be 65 = ~165 hp

juice wrote:

javizzz wrote:

juice wrote:On nozzles 320d 136 i see "DLLA 145 P 748" and the other side i see number 18319. I dont know yet about other nozzle.

the 320d 136cv uses 6 holes x 0.22mm at 145º spray angle nozzles and the 320d 150cv uses 6 holes x 0.16mm at 160º............

so, no, obviously they are not the same (different size whit different spray angle)..............

Great info man, thanks a lot..well i think i` will search a pair of bosio or firad with the same specs but bigger holes, ..because from the pump i cant squeeze more than 65 mg..even if i put request to 80 mg and it shows to me on tester full load 80 mg..the real pump iq from some dyno tests seems to be 65 = ~165 hp

i never have tuned a vp44, but as i readed, there are tons of sv and maps limiting iq in the flash..........

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Neah, problem is not the limiters. I removed all limiters, i made logs and actual fuel IQ is there, to 68 mg . The main limiter on my ecu is torque limiter. I can request 75 mg, in logs i see 75 mg, but in pump maybe will not be 75. there is not about limiters, is about pump and injectors physical limit.

juice wrote:Neah, problem is not the limiters. I removed all limiters, i made logs and actual fuel IQ is there, to 68 mg . The main limiter on my ecu is torque limiter. I can request 75 mg, in logs i see 75 mg, but in pump maybe will not be 75. there is not about limiters, is about pump and injectors physical limit.

i dont know, i ve never tryed one of those.................

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