Hi guys!
I work at a university in Norway. Here we are planning to build a engine test facility. It is supposed to be used for emission research and student demonstrations.
And therefore i have bought a OM613 engine from a E320cdi -2000.
It's supposed to run against a water brake (without a transmission) and controlled/monitored from a computer.
The problem is to get it to start! I have the electronic key and electronic unit. But when i asked bosch, they said that without the transmission, the engine won't start. So i did a research on ECU flashing, and was told by editecu.com to buy Galletto flasher and send the ECU data to them for reprogramming.
Bought the ECU flasher, but it did not communicate with the ECU To be sure the ECU was actually working, i tested with ProScan (which i had experience with from before) and managed to read the throttle position, MAF, MAP and so on.
I got another suggestion from ecuedit.com that i should open the ECU and then connect a pin on the flash to ground, to force some boot-mode or something. No luck.
Got in contact with a guy that offered to come and watch my setup, but got an e-mail a little later when he had done some research, and told me that the immobilizer is fucking with me since i dont have the instrument cluster.
Does anyone have a solution for this problem? De-solder the flash and buy another flasher tool? Or is an aftermarket ECU the only solution?


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Seems to me that your problem is your flasher or your bad knowledge how to use it.

1. You bought any flasher that you found on ebay for few euros and you expect it to work. :D

Bought the ECU flasher, but it did not communicate with the ECU. To be sure the ECU was actually working, i tested with ProScan (which i had experience with from before) and managed to read the throttle position, MAF, MAP and so on.

2. Maybe your flasher is actually working but you do not know how to use it. :oops:

I got another suggestion from ecuedit.com that i should open the ECU and then connect a pin on the flash to ground, to force some boot-mode or something.

3. You asked for help somebody that really has no idea how the system works.

Got in contact with a guy that offered to come and watch my setup, but got an e-mail a little later when he had done some research, and told me that the immobilizer is fucking with me since i dont have the instrument cluster.

Answer me this - How you can do diagnostic on ECU with no instrument cluster? Why the immobilizer is blocking only your flasher?

4. The immo in this ecu is NOT in the instrument cluster. It is in the small 8pin 24C02 chip on the back end of the main board of the ECU it self.

For the end - Check is the flasher working ok on some other car, learn how to use it, or if you can not do that, then simply desolder the flash memory, read it and write it with an eprom programer and solder it back. There is no need to buy an aftermarket ECU.

1. I suspected that it would be a little unstable, but i did not think it would not work at all.

2. Thats true. Can someone give me some information on how to use it? I have connected 12V+, 0V & K-Line. Anything else needed? Serialport config? I can see the flasher blinking, when i try to read.

3. I kind of hope so. :lol:

4. Diagnostic on engine values without the instrument cluster seems reasonable because the sensors are connected to the ECU. I think it sounds a little weird that the immobilizer blocks anything other than the starting. If I desolder the 24C02 chip, would that turn off the immobilizer?

About the boot-mode, can i just ground the correct pin to force boot-mode, like i have tried, or have i misunderstood?

Hi,
like we send you the pictures over email,
for boot mode you have to ground the boot pin before you turn on 12v than you turn it on and than you release ground from boot pine
like shown on the picture.

For boot mode read you have to use boot mode available on the flasher...you have to read some manuals ;)

If you have no experience in this things you have to take it easy and some time and reading.
After you get the bin out of the ecu, with boot mod or de-soldering chip, than the real work begins...

Happy news! I finally managed to read out the ECU. Turns out my galletto flasher wont work with supply voltage over 12 volt.

Can someone look at the file for me? If you think you can fix the program, give me a price offer for the job. :)

http://folk.ntnu.no/steinks/MB/EDC15C6%20MB320cdi
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Upload the bin file in ORI or BIN format in the Original Files section. Not in text mode like you did here.

I have managed to change it to bin, checksums are OK, next time please save files in bin or ori extension,
txt files are easily corrupted or interpreted badly.

We will take a look and inform you about the details,
you also write down all wishes you want to achieve.

regards

Sorry about the file extension. It was actually no extension.

http://folk.ntnu.no/steinks/MB/EDC15C6%20MB320cdi.BIN
http://folk.ntnu.no/steinks/MB/EDC15C6%20MB320cdi.ORI

My wishes is to get the engine to start without the transmission. Start the engine either with the key, CAN-bus message or just a on/off connection.
Would like the opportunity to turn off and on the EGR. Two separate programs or CAN-bus message/electrical switch if that is possible.

Hi,

if i understand you need immo off for this ecu. There for you need the chip like rpm freak told you.

Immo off is first thing to do, then go further with egr or other wishes..



btw: the ecu has not electric egr, so you could put blank plate on (not for 100% shure)