Rate my 206 HDi

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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby Danmcintoshuk » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:40 pm

Hi is this map for a 2,0 hdi?

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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby michass » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:21 am

Yes,
but i don't recommend you to use those map straight to your car.
First you must check your HW version I'm not 100% sure, but if HW is the same, you can use this file straight.
If you have the same HW & SW, then you can use this file for sure. If not, you can compare this file with yours, and find maps to tune.
P.S. I have EGR off, if you want to use those file straight, you must disconnect vaccum pipe and blank them.
My file:
HW:0281010500
SW:1037353319

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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby michass » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:06 pm

First thing, that I forgot:
What taype of ECU do you have?
Bosch EDC15C2 or Siemens SID?
My file is for EDC15C2

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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby wld » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:05 pm

michass wrote:I read this document a little, and i haven't idea how to use it.
I foun on This forum, that i must change single values of gear ratios and first gear TL, but i'm not that expert, to find them.
I afraid that, i change wrong things, for example i don't change rail pressure above 1350bar, beacuse i faund some simillar values to SVRPL, but i don't know, that this values are ecactly SVRPLs. About this Gear ratios, I don't know, how this ratio has shown.
They are Velocity on 1000 RPM for each gear, or maybe typical ratio RPM on IN /RPM on OUT of gearbox.
Do You have any suggestions?
And what about gears TL, when i foud this TL, how check for which gear this TL belong?
Thank you for you help.


A little help from me. I wouldn't go over 1400bar max pressure. There are 7 SVPL values in each bank of data, plus one in the "grey area" . First single is for diagnostic purposes. If you do not modify this, diagnostic will show only 1350bar max.Gear TL are in order 1-5 + reverse gear.
SVPL and gear TL.jpg


But you have to tell me how you got to those SOI values. You calculated them for a desired EOI, taking into account the raised rail pressure? Or you just thought they should work?
Did you check this mod on your car?
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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby wld » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:25 pm

Sorry, I don't know why, but image is bad quality. Attached in .zip format.

SVPL and gear TL.zip
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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby michass » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:29 pm

About SOI:
On standard soi i calculate eoi, then i change rail pressure map.
I check differences between standard eoi and new one, and modify soi to keep eoi on stock.
This is not the newest mod, in newest i advance soi ca. 2deg from 30iq to end above 1000rpms.
You said, that in this files i have more Gear TL than only for first gear?
How to find them?
Do you have damos for this ECU? Do you know how to find gear ratios for launch control?
I don't understand about SVRPLs. Are they all good, or i have some mistakes?
What is the best way to increase rail pressure?
Max 1400, yes?
Increase ech SVRPL about 50bar?

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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby michass » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:35 pm

And what about Gear Torque limiter, that i found?
What is this?

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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby michass » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:01 am

My new child in attachement
i found others SVRPLs, or i think, that are SVRPLs and 6x1 TL, this is not 1st gear TL?
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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby wld » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:19 am

I do not have Damos for this ECU, but I know how to do launch control on it and any EDC15C2 version. In fact this is the first time I opened this SW version, but all EDC15c2 PSA are more or less the same.
If you open the image I posted, you will find all 7+1 SVPL for your SW with correct addresses in 6xxxx range. I defined them manually based on your files. Yours are not correct. Only some of them.
You also have the 1st gear TL. The others look the same and are just below the 1st one in hexdump. It should be easy to define them yourself. All dumps have all 6 of them.
What TL the 12x1 or the 6x1?
The 12x1 is for limp mode. 6x1 I don't think is a TL

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Re: Rate my 206 HDi

Postby wld » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:33 am

Regarding the rail pressure, I never dared to increase it on all the map by 20% like you did.
The physical limit on the rail sensor is 1500bar, so if you ask for 1450bar max you can get into trouble in case of spikes.
I limit it to 1400bar.
I do the same about SOI, but never tried to change the whole map. Only the areas of high IQ.
Did you test this map on the car? Is it responsive? Economical? Does it smoke? You know that 70mm3 can work without any additional mods, only with some smoke.
I'll try your approach when I find the time.

If the 6X1 is indeed a TL, it is not used for gear limiting. To find out that is indeed a limiter, lower some values to 30 for example and see if it limits power. I managed to inject 92mm3 without altering that map, but not all sw versions have all the limiters.

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