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EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby tomo23 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:50 pm

In the last few months, I have come to this forum and I did not even know what EDC15 and EDC16 mean. Everything I have learned so far I have learned here and that's why I appreciate all of you who shared knowledge with me.

By now I figured out some basics in all of this and I make remap for my car. I believe that one day I share what I've learned here to others who will come to this forum just like me.

Because everyone has their own opinion and that is why I'm confused.
I wonder ... What maps are necessary for modification if you do stage 1?
According to my knowledge that I have learned on this forum
it is necessary to modify

Driver wish map
EGR map
Smoke map
Torque Limiter map
Boost Map
Boost Limiter map

What about N75 Map, SOI and Duration Maps?

Someone says that I need to modify and these maps also and someone says the opposite.

All this confuses me a bit and I would like someone to explain to me what is right and what is wrong.

Thank you all for your help

Tomislav

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby lostsoul » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:48 pm

my own opinion the formula are simple, more air + more fuel = more power

if engine are stock

Driver wish map
EGR map
Smoke map
Torque Limiter map
Boost Map

are ok, you have a little margin of power..

N75 map should be modified if you fit a different turbo (VNT turbo).
SOI, duration maps, if you change stock injectors, you don't want injector open "long time", or increase pressure or injector flow

better intercooler, more efficient turbo are the main upgrades..
as i said, my own opinion...

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby tomo23 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:51 am

lostsoul wrote:my own opinion the formula are simple, more air + more fuel = more power

if engine are stock

Driver wish map
EGR map
Smoke map
Torque Limiter map
Boost Map

are ok, you have a little margin of power..

N75 map should be modified if you fit a different turbo (VNT turbo).
SOI, duration maps, if you change stock injectors, you don't want injector open "long time", or increase pressure or injector flow

better intercooler, more efficient turbo are the main upgrades..
as i said, my own opinion...

Thank you

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby v3trox » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:22 pm

You will want to play with the duration maps. Theres no point requesting more boost if you're not going to give it more fuel.

How much should you increase duration? It varies from car to car. Really crude way to do it is to just add duration until it smokes then dial it back a bit.

You will even gain more power just changing the duration maps. Best way is to just try it and see what happens. I would leave the SOI Maps alone to start with.

Dont forget your SVBL as well. You may not need to change it depending on how much you increase your boost target by.

Also what type of engine is it? You may need to alter the any pump voltage map as well (edc15v)

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby tomo23 » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:56 pm

v3trox wrote:You will want to play with the duration maps. Theres no point requesting more boost if you're not going to give it more fuel.

How much should you increase duration? It varies from car to car. Really crude way to do it is to just add duration until it smokes then dial it back a bit.

You will even gain more power just changing the duration maps. Best way is to just try it and see what happens. I would leave the SOI Maps alone to start with.

Dont forget your SVBL as well. You may not need to change it depending on how much you increase your boost target by.

Also what type of engine is it? You may need to alter the any pump voltage map as well (edc15v)

First thanks for answer.

Car is audi a4 (b6) 2002. 1.9TDI PD 74kw manual

Until now I moded:

D.W - just last column max 63mg
Smoke limiter- last column from 1400-4042rpm, max 60mg
Torque limiter- all rows from 1250-4500rpm, max is 57mg from 2000-3000rpm
Boost map- last column (57mg) from 1491-4746rpm, max is 2150mbar from 1911-3990rpm
Boost limiter- all rows from 805-1100pressure, max 2200mbar
EGR- all 850
SVBL- 2350mb stock

Other maps I did not touch.

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby v3trox » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:10 am

Can you attach the original file and i will take a look.

If you have added the boost on last column then you will only feel an improvement at WOT. Also i would suggest you increase fuel duration for 57mg where you have increased boost.

We dont get pd100 in this country so i am not familiar with the KP-39 turbo it uses :(

Do you also have something to log your car with?

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby klop6666 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:15 pm

Common Rail Psa 2.0 Hdi
Modified
DW
Boost
N75
SVBL
Many Temp limiters
EGR off and remove
IQ lim
Torq lim
Rail pressure
SVRL
Smoke map
SOI

Injector open time is calibration map,dont touch it.
Boost 1.3 IQ 76 AFR 17

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby VAG'd » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:53 pm

v3trox wrote:You will want to play with the duration maps. Theres no point requesting more boost if you're not going to give it more fuel.

How much should you increase duration? It varies from car to car. Really crude way to do it is to just add duration until it smokes then dial it back a bit.

You will even gain more power just changing the duration maps. Best way is to just try it and see what happens. I would leave the SOI Maps alone to start with.

Dont forget your SVBL as well. You may not need to change it depending on how much you increase your boost target by.

Also what type of engine is it? You may need to alter the any pump voltage map as well (edc15v)


What do you mean you just add duration as if it needs to be guessed? You have to work it out according to your fuel. Smoke wil be regulated by your smoke map unless there is another limit. Each map has to be specifically worked out, you cant just shoot in the dark and hope for the best.

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby tomo23 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:35 pm

Thanks to all for advices but I just waana know.
Shuld I change duration map if I add max fuel to 60mg in torque limit and max 2250mbar in boost map?
Like I post before, car is Audi A4 1.9TDI PD 100cv.

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Re: EDC15 Stage 1 (Must know)

Postby boRaTDI » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:21 pm

why changing the durations when injecting max 60mg ?
durations are all set to 60mg ori.

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