Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

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Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby sparco » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:50 pm

What is everybody else's thoughts on using the lambda map as a final limitation in a remapped file?
For instence, my car/engine/ecu combination does not have a DPF and no physical Lambda sensor present, so the lambda value for a given amount of IQ versus a given amount of MAF will most likely be calculated by the ecu I suppose and compared to the "Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation".
My duration maps are set up to 100mm³/stroke from factory (I'll leave aside the diiscussion how well it will be calirated for these IQs by the OEMs) and I would not like to start playing with SOI either at this point, I am trying to test how much I can do with the stock hardware without smoke...
On my first files I managed to get big amounts of the nasty black stuff and made good power too...
Back then I lowered the entire lambda map down to "1"...
Now I made a file with up to 350Nm DW and 340Nm on the TL, stock "Nm to IQ Conversion Map" goes up to 450Nm, so no need to touch this one either... I also maxed out the boost maps at 2450mbar (sensor can only read 2495) and I guess this map would smoke heavy again, so my idea was to put like 1.175 in the entire lambda map to get an AFR of just over 17/1 to cut the smoke, apart from the low down areas where I need lower AFRs for acceleration off course...

What is your thoughts on this?

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Re: Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby sparco » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:28 am

Bit of extra info to avoid confusion
i would cap it off from lets say 2250rpm and about 500-550mg/stroke, so the car would never smoke, no matter any errors I might have made or amounts I added to any other maps...
I know I can calculate the lambda values and then adjust them each value at a time to lets say a max afr of 16/1...
But to cut some corners, I just wondered if there is anyone else who would just level out the "performance corner" as some say, to a given lambda in which they know it would never smoke?
I could for instence pull it down lower and then adjust upwards if I get any smoke...

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Re: Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby jurebv » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:07 pm

Hi, sparco,,

I know it's an old thread but, where have you managed to get with this? have you suceeded using it as final smoke limitation?

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Re: Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby sparco » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:42 am

Sorry for the late response.
I just came back to the forum this week.

Yes it worked very well.
I first lowered the map and checked smoke levels.
Where it would start to smoke I would raise the values again to stop it.

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Re: Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby jurebv » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:54 am

But how does ecu calculate it without lambda sensor? Only thing that goes into my mind is with MAF so this just one more Maf limiter?

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Re: Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby sparco » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:10 am

Its basicly edc15 smoke map, but with lambda instead of IQ.
Purely calculated to limit IQ at given rpm and airmass

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Re: Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby jurebv » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:37 am

So its the same if maf map or lambda map is limiter, the values should be the same?

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Re: Lambda Map for Smoke Limitation in EDC16

Postby Ford2595 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:40 pm

Hi, can anyone help me with the addresses where I find the lambda and smoke limiter maps? The software code is 1037386012. Thanks!!

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