Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

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Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby valibb » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:45 pm

I want to remap my ECU Peugeot 307 2.0 HDI 108HP 2002.
After only remap, I can go with car without remove physically FAP ?

I need this information, because I have a compact FAP and is needed to cut and weld to remove filter.

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby ecuedit » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:12 pm

With proper tune you wont have smoke, and if you do not have smoke you won't have problems with fap.

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby mexanico1971 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:33 am

I think he want"s to remove the filter !
I"m right ?!

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby ecuedit » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:14 am

Now i am not really sure what he wants :)

Do you want to remove Fap,
or you want to tune your car without removing fap?

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby Relic » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:17 am

Think he wants it switched off as he cant remove it.

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby valibb » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:32 pm

Thanks for replaying.

Yesterday wanted to remove FAP from my Peugeot 307. Today I can say I made it.

I don' t know if someone have the procedure, but I tell how I do it.
I have an 2002 2.0 HDI 108 HP

1. Disconnect the battery
2. Unplug connector from ECU
3. Disassembly the ECU. At this point you need two screwdrivers, because ECU is sealed with mastic. Keep eyes on connector
because are sealed in a same way
4. Make a small hole somewhere between connectors and put in a isolated wire.
5. Look at http://wiki.obdtuning.com/?title=Bild:C ... latine.jpg
6. Take an resistor with value between 5k to 10k and solder at pin 24. Solder the wire.
7. Make sure the resistor not fly in ECU from car vibrations. Use glue to stick the wire from condensators(not vibrating)
8. Optional you can use glue to be sure the resistor not vibrating (again safety first)
9. Reassemblly the ecu.
10. Take a longer wire with crocodile clips and attach to wire you solded in ECU(half of meter is OK)
11.Reconnect the ECU on car
12. Connect the laptop with MPPS (what i have) or Galleto on OBD Connector
13. Connect the crocodile clips on the ground
14. Connect the (+) terminal
15. Use key car to make on dashboard
16. Wait some seconds
17. Disconnect the crocodile clips from ground
18. MPPS - click only read (not other buttons)
18. The software tell you a message with what you do before. Click OK
19. It will start reading. On my car took 2 min to read.
20. The software will tell you to save the original.bin
21. Remove key car an disconnect the battery again no other moves
22. Use ecusafe
23. Save modded file
24. Repeat procedure 13-17
25. MPPS - click write and go to the modded file
26. The same message with pin 24 eprom
27. Click on the message about contine programming
28. Take a cigarrette or two because you need to wait 5 minutes. Be sure your laptop not have screensaver an is plugged on AC network and your battery car have in condition to suport this 5 minutes.
29. If (I hope) the work is completed 100% click ok and remove key car.
30. Disconnect the battery and reconnect again

OBS. I have read that some ECUs have a protections on read IDs. After an not in procedure read ID the ECU is blocked 15 min.
When I read first the ECU was not possible to re-read ECU and get an error. And of course car was not starting. Was scary moments for me. Belive me only read the ECU and car not starting was not good moments. For soldering use soldering stations because are safetly for ECU

But finally was OK and I have a Peugeot 307 with no FAP messages. I tested car on road and was OK.

I planned to make a drill in FAP. Because my FAP is capsulated I want to remove intermediary pipe and a long drill bit.


If this experience help other is good for me to know.

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby mexanico1971 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:03 am

glad you can make it !
and thank"s for sharing the procedure with as !
but ECUSAFE can make DPF off, on edc15 c2 but after sometime the car start"s to give boost pressure overload !
it happens width a car I have here on my garage last week ! compare the original file width the file moded by ES and see if exist lot"s of differences out of $61129 10x9 map ?!
if exist is bad !

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby OdinEidolon » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:06 am

I'm not completely sure I understood what you said but if you removed the FAP from the ECU without removing it physically you are about to have big problems. You have to remove it physically ASAP or at least drill several holes through it, or it'll clog and potentially break itself to pieces (say goodbye to your backbox) or damage the turbo / decrease performance immensely or damage the engine.

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby rlees85 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:58 am

You must also remove the FAP physically as previously mentioned or bad stuff will happen and you'll break a lot of things...

Also for a more simple way to remove the FAP code on Bosch EDC15C2:

Use KWP2000+
Just connect to OBD connector (make sure battery is on a charger or something to keep voltage stable)
Read dump
Run ECU Safe
Write dump
Off you go....

Id personally rather pay £20 for a KWP2000 then disassemble my ECU so I just thought I'd share this...

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Re: Afer remap a ECU without remove filter

Postby valibb » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:45 pm

Thanks for your information.

I made a lot of drills in from the rear hole. I used a long drill bit, but I don't know if I penetrated completly the filter. I was feared about to destroy catalytic filter who is in front of the FAP. I make some small reparation on exhaust (welding small holes) and I hope to not have problem this year. I expect my salary (who is not big) to pay at Peugeot dealer to desactivate Particule Filter Computer from my actual configuration.

A joke.
At the mechanical workshop is organized a contest for a job. Because we living in a though times, participate from oher candidates an gynecologist. The employer put all candidates to test, and after that give the results. First dissassemble the gas engine and make from him a diesel engine. Audience was exalted. The second dissemble the engine with four pistons and and make an engine with eight pistons. Audience was in ecstasy. The third - gynecologist change the soft from ECU to make more 5% power. The employer announce the gynecologist won the contest. Audience was very astonished. "Why the gynecologist won the contest because he make a simple operation????" Employer explain why. Yes, he make a simple operation, but he make this operation through the exhaust pipe....

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